Do you think fashion magazines are as good now?
They're different. The reason I did fashion was it was the only way to get paid to do anything creative. You couldn't support yourself as an "artist" – I hate that word. The only way you could be "arty" was as a fashion photographer, because it still had a certain amount of integrity involved. Now it's such a mass industry. They just churn it out. There's not much personality in it any more. You can't say, "That's a Helmut Newton picture", because you don't know who took the picture. "Who did the retouching?" is the question you ask. It makes mediocrity look good. And people who are really good, it makes them look mediocre, so it's a levelling out. It's a bit like socialism.
Who's really good and who's mediocre?
Oh I don't know. But most photographers just take pictures. They just come and go "click" – anyone can do that. Which is great – the more people that do that the better it is for me. If I take a picture, I know the person. I use plate cameras most of the time, so they're not looking at cameras, they're looking at me. I don't say "laugh". If I want them to laugh, I make them laugh. If I want them to be grumpy, I'll probably be rude to them.
Part of me agrees with him completely, in that it has become a rather soulless mass-market industry in many ways, but then there are the photographers and magazines who are still forging new paths creatively- ones who aren't using Photoshop as a tool to create "great" images, but are instead shooting truly beautiful works of art that just happen to be fashion photographs. Whether any of them will become as iconic as David Bailey's work we shall have to wait to see...
Thanks for sharing this insightful interview. I have to agree about what Bailey says about retouching-- and how it makes mediocrity look good.
ReplyDeleteHe certainly has a point, it does seem like anyone with a digital camera and photoshop thinks they are professional photographers, somehow most of the romance seems to have been lost for me. But I do think there has to be a place for using photoshop and such in a more creative way.
ReplyDeleteOh, I adore him, and thank you for posting the interview excerpt. I've actually been saddened by photography of late, because I feared that skill was being lost to Photoshop. It's heartening, though, to think that people are aware of this threat.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the pictures are gorgeous. I love his stuff!
Thanks for sharing. Such an insightful post. I agree that photoshop has enabled anyone to become a photographer, as well as creating the illusion of a good photographer (or at least what I deem to be one). Admittedly, I have no idea what qualifies one as good photographer in the technical sense.
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